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[armydad]

Hi need help. i've been gaining weight. went for a fill about a month ago. they decided to empty the band for 2 weeks. i gained more weight went back and they put 4.2 into the band. no restriction so i continue to gain weight went back 10 days later and the new band filler said he would not put more fill in. so 3 trips to mexico $230 in fees with no restriction still. i am up 11 pounds and still have no restriction. anyone have similiar experience? were you able to turn it around?

[Fatcat]

Armydad,

If you went to OCC, I think it is past time you email Dr.O - sounds like something isn't right. Did you have the flouro when you were filled?

Helen >

[Jenn]

Good morning Armydad,

First of all what size band do you have? 4.2 sounds like a lot of fluid. Also as Helen mentioned where did you go in Mexico? Why did they empty it in the first place?

Cassie (my 13 year old at the time) she got the flu. They unfilled her band at the time and she gained weight. She had to wait 1 month before Dr. Martinez would fill it again. They wanted any inflamation to go down and let everything heal. Please let us know more info. so we could get a better idea of what is going on.

Thanks Jenn

aka: From The Oprah Show *Cassie's Mom*

[armydad]

Hi need help. i've been gaining weight. went for a fill about a month ago. they decided to empty the band for 2 weeks. i gained more weight went back and they put 4.2 into the band. no restriction so i continue to gain weight went back 10 days later and the new band filler said he would not put more fill in. so 3 trips to mexico $230 in fees with no restriction still. i am up 11 pounds and still have no restriction. anyone have similiar experience? were you able to turn it around?

yes they did xray i still have no restriction. and i still have problems resisting over eating. that is why i need the band to work. how do i email dr o?

[WAgal]

yes they did xray i still have no restriction. and i still have problems resisting over eating. that is why i need the band to work. how do i email dr o?

Armydad,

Did you watch on the x-ray if there was a slowing down of the fluids as it passed through your band after you were filled? We saw how the band was working first without restriction and then with the saline put in, the liquid flow was slowed down after our fill. If you saw this with your own eyes then you do have restriction. If you didn't then I think your band is malfunctioning or damaged. Are you following the food guidelines? Not drinking stuff high in calories or having ice cream or liquid anything high in calories? May I ask what you are eating? You can call the office and ask to talk to Dr. O and get his email address.

1 866 Dr Ortiz (1-866-376-7849)

Best wishes to the outcome of your predicament. Let us know what happens.

Hanna

[God4me]

Hey Armydad,

Everyone here is concerned.......I have a question, what do you define as restriction? Sometimes after we get banded and then after we have our first fill, we seem to think we have no restriction beause is does not feel like the stuffness we felt right after we got banded. Ask the Dr, what is restriction " after a fill". For example, you may think at one meal you could eat more, then at another meal you get stuffed after 4-6 bites or throw- up your food because you did not chew or noticed that the food did not go down as well. Raise that question, because when you get a fill, the Dr knows what he is looking at and knows what will pose a problem later, say if the fill is too much. Last but not least....stay encouraged!

Monet

[armydad]

Armydad,

Did you watch on the x-ray if there was a slowing down of the fluids as it passed through your band after you were filled? We saw how the band was working first without restriction and then with the saline put in, the liquid flow was slowed down after our fill. If you saw this with your own eyes then you do have restriction. If you didn't then I think your band is malfunctioning or damaged. Are you following the food guidelines? Not drinking stuff high in calories or having ice cream or liquid anything high in calories? May I ask what you are eating? You can call the office and ask to talk to Dr. O and get his email address.

1 866 Dr Ortiz (1-866-376-7849)

Best wishes to the outcome of your predicament. Let us know what happens.

Hanna

thanks Hanna , i do my best with the eating and attempting to eat the right things. the issue i seem to have now is volume. i can eat too much. unfortunately this is a lifelong problem or i wouldn't have needed the band in the first place. i don't understand why it is not working.

[armydad]

Hey Armydad,

Everyone here is concerned.......I have a question, what do you define as restriction? Sometimes after we get banded and then after we have our first fill, we seem to think we have no restriction beause is does not feel like the stuffness we felt right after we got banded. Ask the Dr, what is restriction " after a fill". For example, you may think at one meal you could eat more, then at another meal you get stuffed after 4-6 bites or throw- up your food because you did not chew or noticed that the food did not go down as well. Raise that question, because when you get a fill, the Dr knows what he is looking at and knows what will pose a problem later, say if the fill is too much. Last but not least....stay encouraged!

Monet

yes i saw it going down and it seemed to slow he said he thought the pouch was too big but the band looked to be in the right place and working fine except no restriction on the volume.

[nothereanymore]

Its really hard to keep track and make yourself eat smaller quantities of food until you get to the point were your fills are good. When I first started I had to keep an eating log for about 6 months. Its just a excell spreadsheet that I created to keep track of my food intake and I could find out if you are too low or too high in any area. I'll be happy to send this to you if you'd like - it will come as an attatchment - so just let me know what your email address is.

Once you get in the habit of eating correctly you'll be good to go!

Best,

Lisa

Example, but not clear since you cannot copy excel over too well.

Eating Log Eating Log

28-Oct 29-Oct

Breakfast Calories Protein exercise notes Breakfast Calories Protein exercise notes

Protein drink 125 7 Car Shop Eggs 45 9 shopping

Eggs 45 9 Dog Walk Cheese 30 5 cleaning

Cheese 30 5 Veggies 50 1

veggies 25 1 toast 40 1

toast 40 1

milk 10 1

Total 275 24 Total 165 16

Lunch Calories Protein Daily Water Lunch Calories Protein Daily Water

Chicken 120 10 33.8 beef/cheese 90 16 25.3

Veggies 40 1 25.3 Veggies 65 1 25.3

pineapple 35 0 25 grapes 45 0 12

Beans 75 5 crackers 65 3

Total 270 16 84.1 Total 265 20 62.6

Dinner Calories Protein Dinner Calories Protein

Steak 175 10 *Protein chicken 120 10 *Protein

Veggies 75 1 *Veggies veg/salad 50 1 *Veggies

Carbs 100 5 *Fruits fruit 60 0 *Fruits

*Carbs Pasta 88 6 *Carbs

0 0

Total 350 16 Total 318 17

Others Calories Protein Others Calories Protein

Vitamin drink 60 Vitamin drink 20 0

Protean 45 3 pudding 50 1

0

Total 105 Total 70 1

Daily total 1000 56 84.1 Daily total 818 54 62.6

Minimum 1000 60 100 Minimum 1000 60 100

To complete 0 4 15.9 To complete 182 6 37.4

[armydad]

Its really hard to keep track and make yourself eat smaller quantities of food until you get to the point were your fills are good. When I first started I had to keep an eating log for about 6 months. Its just a excell spreadsheet that I created to keep track of my food intake and I could find out if you are too low or too high in any area. I'll be happy to send this to you if you'd like - it will come as an attatchment - so just let me know what your email address is.

Once you get in the habit of eating correctly you'll be good to go!

Best,

Lisa

Example, but not clear since you cannot copy excel over too well.

Eating Log Eating Log

28-Oct 29-Oct

Breakfast Calories Protein exercise notes Breakfast Calories Protein exercise notes

Protein drink 125 7 Car Shop Eggs 45 9 shopping

Eggs 45 9 Dog Walk Cheese 30 5 cleaning

Cheese 30 5 Veggies 50 1

veggies 25 1 toast 40 1

toast 40 1

milk 10 1

Total 275 24 Total 165 16

Lunch Calories Protein Daily Water Lunch Calories Protein Daily Water

Chicken 120 10 33.8 beef/cheese 90 16 25.3

Veggies 40 1 25.3 Veggies 65 1 25.3

pineapple 35 0 25 grapes 45 0 12

Beans 75 5 crackers 65 3

Total 270 16 84.1 Total 265 20 62.6

Dinner Calories Protein Dinner Calories Protein

Steak 175 10 *Protein chicken 120 10 *Protein

Veggies 75 1 *Veggies veg/salad 50 1 *Veggies

Carbs 100 5 *Fruits fruit 60 0 *Fruits

*Carbs Pasta 88 6 *Carbs

0 0

Total 350 16 Total 318 17

Others Calories Protein Others Calories Protein

Vitamin drink 60 Vitamin drink 20 0

Protean 45 3 pudding 50 1

0

Total 105 Total 70 1

Daily total 1000 56 84.1 Daily total 818 54 62.6

Minimum 1000 60 100 Minimum 1000 60 100

To complete 0 4 15.9 To complete 182 6 37.4

thanks i'd like to see it. i have had 4 or 5 fills since november 2006. so i have been doing this for a long time but still have issues with food. if my body will let me i most likely will over eat.

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